Character creation 100, 000 BC

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

Original Batman used to shoot criminals.

ytzk · **Posted:** Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:30 pm **Post subject:**

Sooo, derailing aside... I'm brainstorming for a novel I'm working on.

That's right, I'm working on it. Writer's block counts as working.

Anyways, any good ideas I use will be acknowledged, (but not paid for). It's not stealing if you're warned.

Anyone interested in actually roleplaying some prehistory?

Edit: Well, obviously not, in retrospect. How about a superhero game?

Grossenschwamm · **Posted:** Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:40 pm **Post subject:**

I'm interested in prehistory.

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

I'd like a superhero game, but only if Arthgon can be invincible and have the power of having any power he wants.

Grossenschwamm · **Posted:** Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:58 am **Post subject:**

Zanza wrote:

I'd like a superhero game, but only if Arthgon can be invincible and have the power of having any power he wants.

That sounds like a combination of Silver Age Superman (a fictional man so powerful he couldn't be challenged by his own writers) and Modern Superman (who's somehow growing immune to Kryptonite).

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

Grossenschwamm wrote:

Zanza wrote:

I'd like a superhero game, but only if Arthgon can be invincible and have the power of having any power he wants.

That sounds like a combination of Silver Age Superman (a fictional man so powerful he couldn't be challenged by his own writers) and Modern Superman (who's somehow growing immune to Kryptonite).

So any of Arthgon's previous characters then?

Arthgon · **Posted:** Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:06 pm **Post subject:**

Since when were my characters uber powerful or could do aything? They even had their personal problems, weaknesses and made mistakes. So why?

If we go for the superhero, then I want to have a regular superhero, but still having weaknessess to make up with the powers.

Edit: I rather would do a prehistory rpg. Because that would be interesting.

Constipation · **Posted:** Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:12 pm **Post subject:**

You're confusing your characters with yourself there mate.

Arthgon · **Posted:** Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:01 pm **Post subject:**

No. I have not confused those two this time. Because I am absolute sure that my characters have not any super powers or invinisble.

If there was such things, then I sincerly sorry about this.

Grakelin · **Posted:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:06 am **Post subject:**

Let the record show that Arthgon distinguishes the difference between himself and his roleplay characters as "the roleplay characters do not have superpowers".

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

I fell off my chair laughing to that comment Grakelin.

Arthgon · **Posted:** Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:53 am **Post subject:**

Grak: So, you are saying that I think that I have super powers? It would have been cool, but no. Why? Because it does not exist.
Zanza: Says the guy who wants to be a bloody Batman in an interesting thread about the aspects of the Prehistoric world and people.

On topic: What will it be Superhero or a Prehistoric RP?

Edit: What should we put as a Prehistoric language or just in 'normal' English? That is because there is no true evidence of what for language(s) they have spoken.

Grossenschwamm · **Posted:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:12 am **Post subject:**

Arthgon wrote:

Grak: So, you are saying that I think that I have super powers? It would have been cool, but no. Why? Because it does not exist.

While he twisted your words to have you say that, I actually did say that.

Arthgon wrote:

Zanza: Says the guy who wants to be a bloody Batman in an interesting thread about the aspects of the Prehistoric world and people.

No, Grakelin wanted to be Batman, Zanza wanted to be Nightwing. They're both formidable combatants, but their gadgetry would need to be played own a bit to fit within the time frame if it was even allowed. Plus, I'm not entirely certain kevlar anything existed 100,000 B.C.

Arthgon wrote:

On topic: What will it be Superhero or a Prehistoric RP?

Edit: What should we put as a Prehistoric language or just in 'normal' English? That is because there is no true evidence of what for language(s) they have spoken.

I think the vote is still being held. I dropped my prehistoric vote, you choose which you want. As for language, while we don't know what languages were being spoken, we can probably guess nothing was being written in any way. There could be some sort of plot device where a player character takes time to learn the basics of another tribe's language, or for the sake of convenience, everyone will be speaking the same language.

Arthgon · **Posted:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:05 pm **Post subject:**

I will vote for the prehistory, because that is more interesting than a super hero rpg.

I think it would be better that everyone should learn the languages of other tribes, because that would be more genuine to that time frame than knowning the same languages. Perhaps the same way how it was done in 13th Warrior, where the hero learned the language of the Vikings after being around them for awhile. Before that, he does not understand them at all.

The only thing that I want to point out is that name-giving of the people and tribes in that era are not very clear.

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

Batman went back in time and had his utility belt during the dawn of man.

ytzk · **Posted:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:18 pm **Post subject:**

Yes, the language barrier would have been a big deal, and translators would have been valued.

Given the rate at which schoolkids deliberately codify their speech for the express purpose of excluding outsiders, I'd say just about every family would have it's own language.

However, given the universality of facial expressions, tones of voice and other nonverbal cues, I think communication would be easily achieved, if there was motivation for doing so.

As to properly learning a distinct, new language, which I think would have been as rich and complex as any today, it would require true immersion and was therefore probably a specialty of kidnapped women.

If we roleplayed a diverse group, I would rule that an easy form of language would develop within one year. But, as I said, I imagine our ancestors to have been much more patient and dilligent than us.

"Ever since man first crawled out of his cave and discovered his neighbour, with his new language and new way of looking at things, he's had a dream: To kill him so he wouldn't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things."
-Zap Brannigan.

Ps - On the other hand, maybe groups were centred around related females, while males roamed around waiting to depose kings and move in on the women. Maybe different groups had different models. I guess anyone could be multilingual over time.

Arthgon · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:01 pm **Post subject:**

What about the name-giving for the tribes and people? I am not quite sure how far they were in that time when it comes to naming things.

PS: Sorry, that it took so long to post here.

ytzk · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:30 pm **Post subject:**

Well, it was so far back that there is no knowing what was said, thought or done.

I think they were in between ice ages, as we are now, so probably there was a lot of localised population booms. Anything could have been possible.

We know that modern tribes with ancient traditions have incredibly rich vocabularies and are replete with specialised knowledge about their immediate environment, eg, different species and behaviours, so that answers your question, again.

I'll say it once more: Language was as advanced then as it was now.

Grossenschwamm · **Posted:** Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:37 am **Post subject:**

It's only a theory, but experts think that our distant ancestors had trouble discerning dreams from reality, which would lead to a much richer and more vivid natural world. I think this is "evidenced" by unexplained humanoid and animal shapes on cave paintings, and perhaps by the thought that at that stage in our history our cognitive reasoning didn't advance far beyond that of a 5 year-old's (as shown by CT-scans of neanderthal and cro-magnon brain cases at various stages of development). Perhaps on that token, a modern person might think the ancients didn't have as developed a linguistic system, but that person's probably an idiot; five year olds are naive, not stupid. They've got some of the most creative, unadulterated minds on the planet. Add in that there's a whole population that can't separate dreams from the waking world and you have the most fearsome, self sufficient psychonauts that ever lived, who tend to think of things like children might.
One thing is certain, however;
We're much weaker today, and our brains were about 12% larger back then on average. Imagine losing a baseball-sized lump of brain-matter. That happened.

ytzk · **Posted:** Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:06 am **Post subject:**

So there you go.

Three out of three autistic nerds agree... Cavemen are cool.

Any normies interested in playing? Or shall Arthgon, Gross and I just sit around regurgitating National Geographics at each other?

Go Team Assburger!

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

Can I be Nightwing?

Arthgon · **Posted:** Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:05 pm **Post subject:**

No. What about Captain Caveman?

Zanza · **Joined:** Apr 20, 2009 **Posts:** 2768

Would I have a shield?

ytzk · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:48 am **Post subject:**

*time delay on social skills*

Er, no offense intended, Gross and Arthgon.

Have an emoticon as a token of my good will

Arthgon · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:53 am **Post subject:**

I know that the coffee still needs to kick in, but what was offensive then?

Character creation 100, 000 BC

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