Smuel wrote:
Right. So your argument could be summarized as:
i) If it's important to get from A to B, then getting from A to B is important.
ii) How you get from A to B will affect you.
That's fine. I agree. The problem is that you seemed to be turning it round the other way, with your rhetorical question "What's the point of a destination if the journey has no significance?"
Using i) and ii) above, this could be re-written as "What's the point of getting to B, if how you get from A to B doesn't affect you?"
Well, really? I think it's fairly obvious - the effect that the journey has is a side effect. It's not the important part. The important part is that you get to B. So, for example, if it turns out that you are already at B, then there is no need for a journey, so it will, by definition, not affect you. Yet it doesn't follow from that that being at B isn't important.
The point of a destination is that it's where you want to be. Whether or not the journey affects you is usually irrelevant, and most of the time people seek to minimize the amount that the journey affects them. In an ideal scenario, it wouldn't affect them at all.
If you never meant to imply any of that, then yeah, we agreed all along. And certainly in the case of atheism, I only care about the end result.
How did you misread my question as anything other than what you now understand I was saying?
I also never said the destination wasn't important, so you need to stop putting words in my mouth, just as I've stopped doing that with you.
Things that affect you aren't important? Maximal (hehehe...Transformers) or minimal, the affect is there, and the effect is important. Take how any of our discussions went before this one;
Would how I behaved in any previous discussion affect how you approached this one? And wouldn't that affect be important in that you now approach anything I say so incredulously you have no inference as to what sense I make?
You're going to need to tell me how any affective process isn't important. It changes how you see things and how you do things. If I was to clumsily grab the stem of an uncut rose, I'd quickly learn not to do that again because of how little I enjoy thorns in my palm. Taking things for granted and minimalizing the effect doesn't mean something isn't important, unless you choose to denigrate the importance of something based relatively on two separate things. Experience is always important, it can harm or heal you. Anything that will affect you, be it a choice or an action, is important.
Smuel wrote:
Mwah.
Your lips are cracked and you smell like crumpets. We still do not agree, no first base.
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Smuel wrote:
I expect it's something to do with cheap rolex watches enlarging his penis while he makes $400,000 an hour working from home.
