The Moon Landing

wobbler · **Posted:** Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:57 pm **Post subject:**

Hopefully. I mean, what's the goal of having internet if people can't get insulted.

I have heard of this legendary pokemon trainer. I wanna be like him. You heard about him? They call him Kony.

Xyle · **Posted:** Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:42 pm **Post subject:**

wayne-scales wrote:

I can't think of a scenario where that'd be funny.

Not to you because it's an insult: Special ed is short for Special education.

Grossenschwamm wrote:

I would enjoy very much for you to explain what - in the hairy name of balls - I just read. You know, aside from being very entertaining.

Unbelievable bullshit on par with the idea of that all the world governments would permit the United States to pull off a moon landing hoax. Deceiving the American people would be easy because most of them wanted to believe. Deceiving the competition would have been nigh on impossible.

Grossenschwamm · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:49 am **Post subject:**

Smuel wrote:

We don't have film of Moses' alleged feats.

We do have film of The Blair Witch Project, and you have no idea how many people in my area actually believed it was real lost footage of some unfortunate college students. We also have film of Charlton Heston playing Moses as he performs those miracles. Close enough for me.

Xyle wrote:

Unbelievable bullshit on par with the idea of that all the world governments would permit the United States to pull off a moon landing hoax. Deceiving the American people would be easy because most of them wanted to believe. Deceiving the competition would have been nigh on impossible.

That's what I thought, but I didn't want to be rude and assume such a complicated motive.

wayne-scales · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:30 am **Post subject:**

Xyle wrote:

wayne-scales wrote:

I can't think of a scenario where that'd be funny.

Not to you because it's an insult: Special ed is short for Special education.

Yeah, I got that and still didn't see how it was funny. Maybe you had to be there.

rroyo · **Joined:** Oct 14, 2006 **Posts:** 3292

wobbler wrote:

Didn't we have a real clever guy here on the forum before? Like Philes or rroyo, I think one of them were quite smart.

Must have been Philes.

Grossenschwamm: Now you've got me concerned about Apollo 18.

Grossenschwamm · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:14 am **Post subject:**

wayne-scales wrote:

Xyle wrote:

wayne-scales wrote:

I can't think of a scenario where that'd be funny.

Not to you because it's an insult: Special ed is short for Special education.

Yeah, I got that and still didn't see how it was funny. Maybe you had to be there.

...In special ed?

rroyo wrote:

Grossenschwamm: Now you've got me concerned about Apollo 18.

Wasn't that mission cancelled in 1970? I know the movie was boring, though.

wayne-scales · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:37 am **Post subject:**

Too subtle?

Xyle · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:44 pm **Post subject:**

Grossenschwamm wrote:

We do have film of The Blair Witch Project, and you have no idea how many people in my area actually believed it was real lost footage of some unfortunate college students.

I waited until the end of the credits and read the disclaimer that declared it to fiction.

Grossenschwamm wrote:

wayne-scales wrote:

Maybe you had to be there.

...In special ed?

wayne-scales wrote:

Too subtle?

Subtle enough that I chuckled.

Constipation · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:51 pm **Post subject:**

Shouldn't believe everything you read.

Xyle · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:04 pm **Post subject:**

Constipation wrote:

Shouldn't believe everything you read.

Since when does hollywood release a movie that is based on real events and not advertise such? Between Liability and Advertising, there isn't a reason that they would lie and every reason not to lie. The "almighty dollar" prevents certain kinds of deceptions in the business world, and encourages other kinds of deception. It is more believable that the idea that the movie real was an advertising lie than the movie was real and they didn't directly advertise it as such.

And if it was real, the film would be in a police locker as evidence; not on every silver screen for people's enjoyment.

Constipation · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:12 pm **Post subject:**

You thought you needed to write that and that is just sad.

Xyle · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:40 pm **Post subject:**

Constipation wrote:

You thought you needed to write that and that is just sad.

Well, part of me wanted to write that, and another part didn't see the point as it figured that you won't accept the concepts anyways. But since I play the fool on this forum anyways and say everything (well, not everything), I figured Why not? Both opposing positions are pure bullshit anyways. But since I would rather believe that people are more good than evil, I'll take the position that the movie was just entertainment. To believe otherwise would be to open myself unknown fears, and who needs more fear in their life?

wayne-scales · **Posted:** Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:49 pm **Post subject:**

I just looked at my signature and laughed. Good times.

ytzk · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:03 am **Post subject:**

I like the way everyone has a north star now.

My north star: the seven stars of the southern cross, which help to extrapolate south.

wayne-scales · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:13 am **Post subject:**

Xyle's my north star.

Xyle · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:26 am **Post subject:**

ytzk wrote:

I like the way everyone has a north star now.

My north star: the seven stars of the southern cross, which help to extrapolate south.

"North Star" as a figurative expression was derived from the fact that the North Star was the primary star for navigation as it indicated which direction was North. The metaphor is used to indicate a guiding principal's role or a role model's impact upon a person's direction in life.

(I could have sworn that my first encounter with the North Star metaphor was a chocolate commerical, but I can't seem to find the company online.)

wayne-scales wrote:

Xyle's my north star.

I'm your role model?

wayne-scales · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:28 am **Post subject:**

Xyle wrote:

ytzk wrote:

I like the way everyone has a north star now.

My north star: the seven stars of the southern cross, which help to extrapolate south.

"North Star" as a figurative expression was derived from the fact that the North Star was the primary star for navigation as it indicated which direction was North. The metaphor is used to indicate a guiding principal's role or a role model's impact upon a person's direction in life.

No fucking shit.

That's an expression of sarcasm referring to what the other person has just said; it usually functions as a sardonic pointing-out of how glaringly obvious the statement just made was.

The above is an explanation of what I said.

Xyle · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:07 am **Post subject:**

wayne-scales wrote:

That's an expression of sarcasm referring to what the other person has just said; it usually functions as a sardonic pointing-out of how glaringly obvious the statement just made was.

The only point of sarcasm that I understand is that the words do not convey a literal meaning (and commonly convey an opposing meaning to what the words literally mean). The rest of the meaning being conveyed I tend to miss (probably because I grew up in house where no one was sarcastic). Most of the time I fail to notice the use of sarcasm in the first place. Therefore my defense against sarcasm is to take it literal in order to provoke a response that indicates its use -- either by a direct response such as what you gave or more commonly by the indirect responses of body language and/or behaviors. (Not hearing a tone of voice is a majority disablity for me in identifying sarcasm; although, many don't use a sarcastic tone of voice when being sarcastic anyway.)

I don't recommend sarcasm as a form of communicating if you wish to communicate to me in a manner that actually communicates what you wish to communicate. When I do discover sarcasm's use, I tend to ignore (or forget) what was said in a sarcastic manner. (Ever notice that it is rather difficult to remember things when you didn't understanding them to begin with?)

ytzk · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:28 am **Post subject:**

Sarcasm's very useful when you like to say nice things but you are presented with stupid/boring situations.

For example, thankyou so much, Xyle, for telling me that the north star is a metaphor for guidance. I've never ever heard that before, and I was actually really confused about the subtext. Gosh, what an interesting person you are, to be so replete with such subtlety and insight. It's a real pleasure to be patronised by you.

You see? I didn't have to be nasty at all, at least not overtly. And the best thing is, when you're really up against an idiot, they don't even know you're doing it.

Xyle · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:39 am **Post subject:**

ytzk wrote:

Sarcasm's very useful when you like to say nice things but you are presented with stupid/boring situations.

For example, thankyou so much, Xyle, for telling me that the north star is a metaphor for guidance. I've never ever heard that before, and I was actually really confused about the subtext. Gosh, what an interesting person you are, to be so replete with such subtlety and insight. It's a real pleasure to be patronised by you.

You see? I didn't have to be nasty at all, at least not overtly. And the best thing is, when you're really up against an idiot, they don't even know you're doing it.

Well, I understand obvious sarcasm such as that, especially since you were so kind as to emphasize it.

TheDavisChanger · **Posted:** Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:30 am **Post subject:**

ytzk wrote:

Sarcasm's very useful when you like to say nice things but you are presented with stupid/boring situations.

My new favorite is "how perfect is that?" It's one of those nonsense, say-nothing rhetorical questions for which I've actually found a use.
If I'm caught saying that to someone, I either hate some fiber of that person's being, said person is a child, or both.

Crypton · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:50 am **Post subject:**

Crypton · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:59 am **Post subject:**

Now seriously:
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ytzk · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:12 am **Post subject:**

How perfect is that?

I'm not just skeptical of cold-war propaganda wars, I'm a "hoax-believer"? That's like NASA's official counter-claim, "only crackpots don't believe it."

By that logic, anyone that doesn't believe in the bible is a "satan-believer" instead of an honest skeptic.

I'd be delighted to backflip on this issue and I'm sorry that I happen to be on the same side as idiots and paranoid schitzaphrenics. But I'm comforted to know that you are on the same side as Xyle and Nixon.

Xyle · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:03 pm **Post subject:**

ytzk wrote:

By that logic, anyone that doesn't believe in the bible is a "satan-believer" instead of an honest skeptic.

Didn't you know that some religious individuals actually believe that?

The logic is that you are either for or against: If you are not for God, then you must be against him --> You have been told that God exists and the Bible is His Word; if you do not accept this, then you lack Faith. "But without faith it is impossible to please [God]" (Hebrews 11:6a) If you do not seek to please God, you must be only seeking to please yourself. Those that seek to please themselves will follow the desires of their flesh and live ungodly sinful lives. If you live an ungodly and unrepent life, you commit the crimes that damn yourself to hell. etc. etc. etc. Thousands of statements that are believed without any futher proof that they are taught from the pulpit and read in the Bible, and each and every one of them confirm and strengthen the beliefs in the other statements. In the minds of the religious extreme, logic and skeptism has no power to persuade because an "honest skeptic" is one who believes in Satan's lie that skeptism is good.
This is not the extreme that I take things to, because skeptism and logic are useful tools. However, like any good tool, you need to know when to use them and when not to. Unfortunately, the nature of logic is such that it can justify any belief; therefore, how can one claim to be an "honest skeptic" when logic cannot be used properly to reach the ends that the "honest skeptic" claims that logic can reach? Invariably, regardless of how much a person learns and knows, it all comes down to a choice based in a person's heart and not in their head. I believe in Jesus for no other reason than because I choose to.[/i]

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